EP 99: Enhance your Passion and Pleasure: Erotic Herbalism and Flamenco to Spice up your Life!

Mar 11

Ooiiie! We have a spicy, enticing episode for you today! I got a chance to talk with my dear friend Andrea Isabella Gomez and we discuss Erotic Herbalism and her recent class on Erotica Botanica and the upcoming International Music and Dance Festival, Boco Flamenco happening April 4th and 5th, 2023 in Boulder, CO

This chat is a deep dive into creating more spice in your sex life, enhancing excitement, fertility and virility and dance moves for healing your pelvis anytime and some specific suggestions for postpartum pelvic care. We also talk about the healing elements of Dance and Music and how to bring more passion and pleasure into your life. Andrea is the Executive Director of the first Flamenco Festival in Boulder, CO and is bringing talent from all over the world to dance in the mountains and share this rich and exciting Style of dance- Flamenco. This conversation is so fun and full of passion! This chat gets a little spicy so may not be appropriate for little ears and you may want headphones. Get ready to move! Ole!

A little bit about Andrea

Andrea Isabella Gomez is a certified clinical Herbalist and dancer. She is the chair and executive director at BOCO Flamenco, a (501)c3 whose mission is to enrich the culture of Boulder, Colorado through Flamenco music and dance. BOCO Flamenco will be celebrating the first edition of its International Flamenco Festival this April of 2023. She is an herbalist at Rebecca’s Herbal Apothecary, where she is passionate about discusssing and dispensing herbs for erotic botanica, reproductive wellness and everything motherhood.

Sara: [00:00:00] I am so excited. Today I get to connect with my friend Andrea Isabella Gomez, and she is an incredible herbalist and dancer.
She teaches flamenco and she's helping to coordinate this incredible flamenco festival here in Boulder, Colorado, coming up at the beginning of April. She also recently taught a class about Eroica Botanica, and she's a mother, and so I just was really excited to talk to her about that experience of giving birth to children and also birthing projects and just.
Passion and the idea of passion and the way that plants can fuel us in our creative endeavors and in our bodies to just get excited about life and to bring in a little bit more passion and zest and eroticism into our lives. And so thank you so much, Andrea, for being here today and making time to talk.
[00:01:00] Oh my
Andrea: goodness. Thank you, Sam Marie. It is so, such an honor to be here. This is my, actually my first ever interview, so I'm Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so happy It's been you and on my favorite topics, it's like, feels so juicy. So I'm just like, let's go. I can't wait. . Yes,
Sara: I know. So excited. I'm curious what brought you into herbalism.
It's always interesting to know a little bit more about like what. Brought you into the plant path, because I know for many people it's kind of a wandering wandering path, and so I'm always curious, like, how did the plants captivate you and seduce you into working with them?
totally. Yeah.
Andrea: Like how did I find the doorway? You know, like it's, I I totally agree that it, it can be a process of like, you know, like discovery and self-discovery and even hardships. So yeah, for me [00:02:00] personally I was, I got put on birth control when I was like 17 or stress control pills, you know, when I was like, yeah, 16 or 17, I think really young.
Same here.
Sara: Really? Mm-hmm. . Wow. Yes. Yeah. Isn't that insane? It's, it's a little wild. Yeah. It's.
Andrea: Yeah. I mean, it's, it was, it was to regulate my, my period, you know? Mm-hmm. also, I, I took, I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't upset about the benefits, like the birth control benefits either. I wasn't complaining about that, , . But, but then after years I just kind of was like, Hey, am I gonna need to take this pill all the time to, in order to get my period, my period?
You know, it wasn't, and looking back, it wasn't even a period, you know, I was actually suppressing my ovulation, but, you know, and I didn't wanna rely on, I just didn't wanna rely on this pill. And so I got off of it and I actually ended up having a miscarriage that I didn't even realize I was pregnant when I was like, [00:03:00] 2020, when I was 20.
Mm-hmm. and just be, because I wasn't aware of my cycle. And I just like irresponsibly, like got off of it. But because I wanted to take responsibility but didn't have the tools to. To fully embody that awareness, that fertility awareness. So yeah, it's, it was kind of my path in herbalism pretty much started because of that.
Because after I was like, I wanted to figure out a way to, to get my period regularly, like to bleed regularly and just get to know my body and yeah. Herbs were just like the gateway. I mean, yeah, they were the gateway for me to self-discovery.
Sara: Mm-hmm. so beautiful. Yeah. I think it's so interesting to think of how many people are put on birth control as a way of regulating cycles when really.
In, if that's the [00:04:00] purpose for initiating that we could be working with plants to balance things in a much more harmonious way so it's, it's an interesting dynamic and that's so beautiful to just, to be called into the plants and working with them more. Yeah, totally. How did you, how did you ever like, hear about or discover, was there a person who kind of led you into this path or what initiated that?
Andrea: Yeah, so I moved to Colorado to study natural medicine and I was actually, Finishing up my, my bachelor's, my associate's actually for a set, front range, community college.
And I was, oh yeah, I was in like the hallways and I saw this like, you know, in this very like, conventional educational setting. And I see this red haired woman with like, just barefoot in the, you know, student lounge with this beautiful skirt. And I was just like, so [00:05:00] magnetized. Like, what are you doing here?
Like, just, you know, totally in her in her wild spirit there, . And at the uni, at the, the college. And she was get, she was finishing up her, her anatomy and physiology credits for, to become a, a doula or a midwife actually. Oh, oh, cool. Yeah. And she had just graduated from Colorado Crump? .
Sara: North
Andrea: American Institute of Medical Herbalism. So she said, you know, yeah, I, I was studied there, and then she actually took me to Rebecca's, to the shop Oh. To get some herb for my, for, to my, for my cycle. And I, as soon as I walked in, I'm like, this is it, like, like the apothecary just oh, like awoke in me, this, this desire and longing and like at the same time I felt at home.
Mm. So, yeah. I said, how, what do I need to do to like, to, to, to, to learn about this and to know how to like, you know, properly use all this and essentially to [00:06:00] work there, you know, too, like I, it was part of me that wanted to just like be pouring the herbs and mixing them and I just was like so drawn to it and they're like, well, you need to be a certified herbalist.
And then I found out about the herbalism school there. And so, yeah, I, yeah, I studied there and I took a little breather. I did my fundamentals with Paul his last year teaching at the N A I M H. And then, you know, I took a sabbatical to go Dance Flamingo in Spain. Oh. To, you know, I need to like get out cuz it just felt really heady.
Yeah. When we started talking about diabetes, I was like, okay, this, I, I, I had pictured myself like in the woods, you know, like, and I, and I just couldn't grasp how important it is to actually, you know, No. Like under understand, like the pathology that's so prevalent in our, in our society and, and, and also like the nutritional aspect[00:07:00] of it.
Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Yeah. It's, I totally relate to that too. Like once I started at the Clara School of Clinical urbanism, like I also envisioned like witch and Hogwarts and just like mixing things and casting spells and it's like so scientific and clinical and it's like reading PubMed papers and Exactly. Diving into stuff.
I mean, there was a little bit of an element of magic, but it was also so clinical. Yeah. So, yeah. I can wait
Andrea: to that . Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, and, and that, and that part is so necessary that left brain. Mm-hmm. , you know, like to, I feel like that's what, when, when you weave in like the left and the right or, or just like, you know, , all these, you know, the science, the, the research based science into it.
It, it, it just gives it like it, like, it grounds it in this reality and, and yeah, I, it it gives us credibility too. Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Yeah. And then we're able to meet people where they are. Cuz so many people [00:08:00] are, want the evidence, they want the research. They wanna know, why should I stop eating gluten or why should I drink nettle tea?
And so it's nice to be able to meet people there and, you know, provide that information. And also know from, you know, bringing in ancient traditions, bringing in our own intuition, our own experience. So it's like that weaving of the four directions of like Yes. Yes. Research, yes. Our own experience. Yes.
Other people's experience for. Thousands and thousands of years of working with the plants. And so weaving all of those things together is exactly
Andrea: cool. Totally. I'm, I agree. No, I, I went back to the herbalism school for my advanced program then like a few years later cuz I realized like, okay, this is like, what we're dealing with in the society is actually these things that you need to know, like how they're gonna, you know.[00:09:00]
Yeah. It's just like understanding modern pathology too. Mm, mm-hmm. .
Sara: Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious about your sabbatical though. So you went to Spain to dance Flamenco. I wanna hear more about that. That is so incredible.
Andrea: Yeah. I mean, since I was a little girl, I've been, just since I can remember, I mean, I remember I started ballet when I was little and I just cried and cried and cried.
After that class, I just, I, I begged my mom to take me out. It was just very like, strict and I felt so like, You know, bound and, and rigid. And so she found another dance studio in Miami where I grew up that, you know, she, the teacher taught flamingo, she taught Latin folk folkloric dances and af African dances as well, like Afro-Caribbean dances.
So it was like total opposite, like it felt so like, embodied and, and it, the flamingo was just like what really captured me. And, and I stayed with it for my whole life. [00:10:00] And. Yeah. And as an adult, like as soon as, I mean, after high school, I kind of let it go and I had like this college experience and, you know, just move, you know, coming into my own and moved to la, moved to Boulder, and, and then after finding, you know, grounding myself in this herbalism path, I felt like, okay, it's also time I need, I can't forget this aspect of myself and, you know, I'm a dancer and I, my passion is to move and the rhythm and flamenco.
And so in Boulder felt like such a desert for, for, for flamenco, I mean, Colorado. I mean, there's, there was like, it's like there was nothing, you know? Mm-hmm. . So I said, I'm gonna go straight to the source and I'm just gonna go. So I moved to, I was there for three months, as long as I could be there. And yeah.
Then when I came back, I, I, I finished the program, the herbal program, but, Yeah, I studied with some of the, with, I mean, with some amazing, amazing teachers there. And [00:11:00] so that's, I mean, essentially that's the point of the flamenco festivals. But we wanna, you know, we're bringing, we wanna bring, we're bringing flamenco here and enriching, you know, the Boulder culture.
Oh,
Sara: it's so special and so important. I know when I moved here from New York, maybe six or seven years ago, I was, so, I was in New York we were doing like this boat tour or something. but there was these two flamingo dancers on the boat and performing.
And I was like, what is this? This is amazing. Like, it just like totally captured. Attention and imagination. And I was like, ah, I need to learn to seductively stomp around like this . It's just like so fun and beautiful and just this divine feminine pulse.
Like there it was just so gorgeous. So I started taking flamenco in New York and then I moved to Boulder and I was like, there's no [00:12:00] flamenco here. Like I want more flamenco. So when I met you I was like, oh my God, you were like the flamenco goddess. Oh
Andrea: my goodness, Sarah. Like this is, it's just, I mean, I can see, I can see you and your fire and I can see you like just embodying this art form.
So I, it totally makes sense that you would be so drawn to it too. And you know, in New York there's a lot of
Sara: flamingo. Yeah, it's so fun. It's just such an incredible way of moving. Like there's this, you know, kind of thinking of the element of ballet, like there is a little bit of a constriction to it, , like elegant precision I guess.
But then there's also this like fluidity that is different than ballet that I really loved and thinking about dance and just the way that we move our bodies. I'm curious about the history of Flamingo, cuz I don't know very much about it. If there's anything [00:13:00] there you wanna share, it just feels like, cuz it's not a partner dance in the same way that some partner dances are like, it's a little bit more like women being in their bodies or people being in their bodies, not necessarily.
Dancing physically with another person, but oftentimes it's more independent. So I'm kind of curious if there's anything you wanna share about that? Oh,
Andrea: yes. I love it. This is like, this is my, my passion topic. Like you know, Flamingo was born from, it was it, it's a, it's a ancient tradition that has so many cultural influences.
The gypsies have been traced back to India and, you know, because of the caste system in India, they they left India and they, some of them traveled, you know, west through Africa and some of them traveled through, went north to Eastern. and they traveled to Eastern Europe [00:14:00] and they kept, you know, they were not, it's like they were not accepted in, in so many of the places that they would go to and like their lifestyle.
So they kept, you know, moving onward and westward and westward until they land. They landed Inia, Spain in the south of Spain. Mm-hmm. , it's like they couldn't go any further. You know, it was like the Atlantic there and it's just, and there this Spain was okay with having them there as long as they were also like working in the minds.
So there was like a form of like, it's almost the way, like how blues was born from slavery. Mm. Like, you know, an evolution of suffering. Mm-hmm. and also to like maintain, you know, their, their collective soul. You know, and so the in the minds they were like in these like metalsmith, you know, like, you know, as when they were working in the minds, like hammering with the, to the metal, they started creating rhythms and then they started singing, and then the rhythms were born this way.
And then [00:15:00] they would take, when they would go home, they would take the song and the rhythm back to their family and to their neighborhoods. And the women would, and the children would dance. And so it was born in this setting, but also with the influence that they brought from India, from Eastern Europe, from Africa.
And also when, you know, the Qui Torres came here to the, you know, to Cuba and to South America. They picked up rhythms here too, like, you know, Caribbean rhythms and like brought it back to Spain too. And then like Roomba was born. You know, so it's like, and there's so, you know, flamingo is like a tree of all these different branches of rhythms and you can trace each back, each one back to like Africa or Cuba or you know, so
Sara: that is so beautiful to note that it's like this kind of amalgamation of all these different places in the world and cultures and, [00:16:00] and you can feel it in watching it or seeing it or dancing.
Like there is just this like kind of spiraling energy of just this combination of forces coming together and creative energies coming together. And that's so interesting to know that about the mining too. That was like kind of originated from that. I could see how oftentimes. In Vegas nerves in like stimulating our vagus nerve, like soothing our nervous systems, song and dance are two great ways to do that.
And so yeah, I could see like when a culture is traumatized or has to go through intense challenges, like the way that to soothe is like sometimes song and dance. And so I don't just like something that came to me, I was like, oh, that's so interesting to think of. Like, yeah, da song and dance as like healing our bodies and heal healing [00:17:00] culture and like caring culture forward too.
That's just so, so,
Andrea: so beautiful. What a way to tie into like bring the somatic aspect of it and like the, you know, just healing and, and this, the backing, like the science that backs why this also, you know, Is so healing and cathartic. Yeah. You know, doco is very cathartic. I yeah, I mean the setting in Al Lucia in southwest Spain was just right.
You know, there was like, the, the Moors and the Jews and the Catholics all were living in the same place, like coexisting. Mm-hmm. . And also in the so of Spain, it was like the underbelly of Spain. So almost like a little ghetto too. Mm-hmm. . And so it was like, almost has this like, like and the Spanish is deso, you know, like, you know, it's like, it was like making fun of, almost like of the, of the aristocrats or her, you know, what was, yeah.
So s is like, comes [00:18:00] from which is like to make fun. So it's also like this, you know, has this like spicy aspect to it too. Mm-hmm. Oh, I like that. Yeah. In relation to what you were saying about the, what was it we were talking about the Oh, when I was in Spain, you know, I, I just, one, one of the contrasts that I've noticed, like if you're at a restaurant here and someone starts like shouting or gets up and like, makes a big show, it's like, everyone's like, but in Spain, when I was at a restaurant in Spain, I remember this woman, like, she like shouted at her husband and she like stood up and then she did this, like this little, you know, dance or she like did this, like, kind of like had her like dramatic little moment and everyone was like, all, you know, it was like, yes.
Yeah. And it's just like an embracing of these like raw human emotions and there's, it's so celebrated and it's like everyone in in the culture from the oldest member of the family to the youngest is all always like celebrated to like express their selves and express their emotion and move it, you [00:19:00] know?
So that's what I wanna say
Sara: on that. Yeah. . Yeah. That gives me chills. I'm like, what a different culture we would be if we like actually encouraged and like celebrated that that passion and that expression like feeling things in the moment. Cuz I feel like oftentimes maybe it's just my experience coming from North Dakota, but it was like emotions are like suppressed down.
Like don't feel it, just like suppress. And so that idea of just like, yeah, having an argument and letting it be celebrated. Like you don't have to agree. Like love doesn't have to be always agreeing about things. And so I love that, like celebrating that passion and encouraging it in culture too.
That's so interesting. I love
Andrea: that. That is beautiful.
Sara: I, I feel like, I don't know this, but I feel like in flamenco there's this. Celebration of other women, [00:20:00] you know, kind of like how that woman like stood up and like, you know, had her little, like, ugh. Yeah. Shake it off. Yeah. You know, like animals, like when we're, when they're like hurt, they shake it off.
Like, I feel like we need to like move, move things in our body, like move the emotion, like mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , the issues are in our tissues. And so I just feel like with dance, like you can move things out of your body mm-hmm. and there's this celebration of other women and or other people just like, ugh, feel your feelings.
And like, there's this independence in Flamenco that is really interesting to me too. Like, we don't need to have another partner there. Mm-hmm. , like maybe we're dancing for them, but we're really dancing for ourselves to like get things out. And so that independence is really interesting to me and so different in flamenco than some other forms of dance.
I love when like things spiral around. Like that's kinda the nature of flamenco
Andrea: Yeah. Oh, but [00:21:00] no, the issues in our tissues, I mean, you should patent that. That's, that's
Sara: amazing. That's, I mean, I've, I've seen it on Instagram and like, it's not, it's not my own thing. .
Andrea: Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in just a side note in Cuba they say which is like, shake it off, like shake it out, like release it.
Mm-hmm. . So that's what I feel like, you know, dance in general is like when you, when it's not. When it's like, not trying to just re say in the structure and when you just break the egg and you're able to like just, you know, release and express and, and dance with the rhythm. So I feel like Flamingo is dancing with the rhythm and the song, you know, I feel like the partner instead, the partner of the flame of the dancer is the song and the rhythm.
Sara: Ooh, that's cool. Wow. I've never thought of that, but that makes sense.
Andrea: Yeah. And, and, and, and divine, the divine spirit because I mean, if you do, you know the word [00:22:00] It's, it, it, it origin, it was originally Mm. So is, I see God moving through you. I see that you're touched by the divine like that. Wow. Like you were, you were just had a moment of being touched by the divine, like and then it got short.
So, oh,
Sara: cuz like when people are dancing flamenco sometimes they'll say
Andrea: Exactly. And it, you know, it's derived from ak, which is just basically like, I, you were, you were just touched by the divine. Mm. You know, that was just divine inspiration. So Yeah. Ak you were accompany, you were good spirit, you know, so.
Yeah, exactly. Holy .
Sara: Beautiful. Oh, that's so cool to think of. I'm curious, like just looking at the connection with erotica, botanica and herbs that kind of drop us into our senses and into our sensual being. And tying that into flamenco, like, I just feel like you're merging these things in a really [00:23:00] beautiful way.
Like they're different parts of your life and but I see them really being, as one in many ways. Mm-hmm. , I'm curious. Mm-hmm. , if there's anything there you wanna touch on, like how, how did you get interested in herbalism for the divine feminine in that way? Oh, I love
Andrea: that. What a nice marrying . I, yeah.
I've always kind of been like, what? How am I gonna weave these two completely in my mind? You know, they felt totally different path. And it's like, how do I braid them together? And I feel like, you know, it's like the same thing that, that we need to release through dance. We can also, you know, herbs can facilitate in having that release as well.
And in connecting with our, you know, our kundalini, like our inner power and our, you know, , essentially our, like our, our chi, you know, like our, our innate expression of [00:24:00] Archie. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Let's see, how did I get into the divine feminine? I've always been a very like, sensual person and, you know, since I was like really young, like, it's just been like very, you know.
And so, I guess when I, it's almost been, I feel like the herbs and the dance have helped me, you know, heal, years of like repressive programming. Mm-hmm. , like I went to, to a Catholic school from like preschool all the way to senior high school, and it was just a lot of like, you know, This isn't okay, and we need to be like this and, and so many like rules and, which is beautiful.
And I'm so grateful for having, you know, had that structure because then it's like I was able to like, have my own breakthrough and, you know, reconnect with myself without shame. Hmm. [00:25:00] And, and, and with my sexuality and embrace it. And I feel like everybody, you know, sexual energy is just, it's, it's it's creation, it's creative energy and it's like we're all here because of sexual energy.
And so the less shame and the less like taboo and the more we embrace it and celebrate it and use our herbs to like, help move us along in any way that we're like, might be stuck. It's just we're getting closer to experiencing our highest potential here as humans. So. I dunno, that
Sara: beautiful. Yes, it's so true.
I mean, I think when we are connected to our bodies, to our wombs, to our, like our root chakra, you know, then everything else starts to flow a little bit better. And yeah, we're more in alignment with what we're supposed to be doing on this planet. And so Yeah. That makes sense. How it's, it just is, comes together.
Mm-hmm. , [00:26:00] I'm curious if there's like a plant that you really enjoy working with in kind of rooting into that sacral space or that Kundalini energy and getting into the flow for creative projects or for dance or any, a plant that you Yeah. Oftentimes work with for yourself or other people. Yeah.
Andrea: I gotta say it's cayenne pepper. Ooh, fun. Yeah. It just, it feels so good. I actually when I was, so, yeah, it's just, it, it's so good. It's so warming and vitalizing and it brings circulation to wherever it's like applied or when you're, you know, adding it to like a blend or your food, it's like, it's so versatile and I love it in a lubricant.
Sara: So I saw that in your class. I was like, oh, that's fun. Cinnamon and cayenne. I was like, yeah. I
Andrea: mean, I, my first baby with it, so, I mean, I just created like on my beds, on my night [00:27:00] table. I. on olive oil infusing. I was infusing cinnamon powder and cayenne powder and olive oil. It was originally for circulation for my legs, you know, to like mm-hmm.
for like a massage. Mm-hmm. . And then just like the night we decided to like make our little girl, we I just reached over and I, you know, incorporated it into the lovemaking and it was fire. Like, wow. It felt, it was like, it was like that, like, it was just like a divine flame. And I, it was like instantly I got pregnant and it just felt so like, like like turbo, you know,
Mm-hmm. Ferrari, you know, like just like, you know, hopping into a Ferrari and like
Sara: Oh my God, that's such a good story. I love that. Hopman la Ferrari, cayenne. That's so cool. It's interesting, the flower essence too is really good at like bringing in that little like, spark of life. Like if people are [00:28:00] just kind of have like a dullness and they're like, not Yeah. In their body, or I empowered or like activated to do stuff like cayenne flower essence is really great at just like rah like getting, activating people and like waking them up to their, their calling or just to being a little more like spicy and engaged in life.
So that's so fun that that's how your daughter is brought into this world. How amazing. Oh my
Andrea: goodness. Yeah. I, I had no idea about the flower essence. Like I've never worked with it, you know, I what a great idea. Yeah. I feel like the, the dullness has become prevalent in our society, and it's like, when I see that, like I feel like every time I see you, you're just so full of life.
And so you bring so much like joy and like appreciation for the moment and like for sharing and being in like, you know, comu in like, just like working together or [00:29:00] just, you know, being together and like, it's like I feel like you honor the sacred in every interaction you have. And, Aw,
Sara: thank you so much for saying that.
I feel so much the same with you. I'm just like, whenever I get to work with you, I'm like, Andrea, like I just feel like you have this excitement and like Yeah. Passion and drive for life and energized. You just bring like a zestiness and excitement to things and, and love just deep love and realness, which I really love.
And I can see that in, in the way that you mother and work with people as an herbalist and teach and you're holding space for this amazing festival, which I'm so excited about. Ha, I'd love to hear a little bit more about that too, like yeah, the festival, like what is that gonna look like? I know there's some cool teachers and dancers coming to Boulder.
Yeah. What's, what's, what's happening ? Well,
Andrea: we're bringing, yeah, I mean, we're bringing [00:30:00] 11 of the best artists of some of the best artists from Spain. Wow. We're bringing them here to Boulder. They're going to perform for two, two, back to back shows. Two, two concerts. Both the first concert is a.
Amazing flamingo, jazz pianist. His name is Doran, and he has revolutionized flamingo music because the piano was always like an instrument that was not considered flamingo. Mm-hmm. . And he comes from a lineage of flamingo musicians and singers. And he integrated the, the piano and is now, I mean, he's world famous now, and he's very jazzy.
Mm-hmm. very like jazz. And it's just so beautiful. And he's coming with my absolute favorite flamingo dancer, pastor Galvan, who is just a goddess, like, oh my God, the embodiment of like a walking goddess, you know, in the sense that she, she really embraces like the power of her womb and you can see it. [00:31:00] And, and, and like, she transmits that and like, it's like every single movement comes from her womb.
Mm. Wow. You know? Mm-hmm. , that's what, that's what, that's what I feel when I, when I watch her and, and when I take classes with her. And it's just amazing. So she's gonna be here on AP April 4th ante, and, and Paso Galvan, the Dairy Art Center. And April 5th is Antonio Canales, who's actually my father-in-law.
My, my husband comes from a flamenco lineage and Amazing.
Sara: That's so spicy and fun too. .
Andrea: Yeah. I mean, it's amazing. Like, yeah. Destiny is just, wow. And he's coming with prodigy, like a guitar prodigy, like he is, he's very, very young in the flamingo scene, like young for his age to be such a master of the guitar.
And the, actually the show is actually called the Guitar Sings. And so my father-in-law will be dancing Antonio Canales, and [00:32:00] he, who's also one of the most famous flamingo dancers right now. I mean, in this like in the last 30 years or so. And with their you know, musical entourage, amazing percussion, amazing singers.
And so, and they're also gonna be teaching workshops, so. Oh, cool. Yeah.
Sara: Oh my gosh, that's incredible. To be coordinating that and getting to talk and connect with all those amazing performers and dancers and bringing that together, that seems like so much work and so exciting too.
Andrea: Totally. It's, it's, I've been wanting to bring a festival to Boulder for like a decade now, and.
I was inspired by definitely my husband and I met at a flamenco festival in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which is like the capital of flamenco in the United States, and they have, they're on their 36th edition. So we are, we are wanting to bring that fest like a festival, flamenco festival here [00:33:00] and bring, you know, artists like from Spain.
So an international festival where, you know, it's not just like from here, it's also bringing like from the source mm-hmm. , so Oh yeah. For the, like a educative portion, the performance portion and a human connection, like, you know, enjoyment and like gathering portion because the potential for human connection and these kinds of events is so powerful.
Sara: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Absolutely. It's so, so incredible. And just to think of like The way that you started dancing when you were a little girl, and this idea of like, now meeting your husband who is enmeshed in the flamenco world too. It's just so, such a cool, like I don't know, just the way it was like meant to be
It's divine. Yeah.
Andrea: And like for me, the way I feel is it's because I followed my passion. Like I went to this [00:34:00] festival, like I left Boulder, got on a Greyhound, and I said, I'm gonna go to this festival. Like I was, I was waitressing at the Mercury Cafe in Denver and I, there was a flamingo show that happened and there were some artists from Albuquerque that came and I said after the show, like, oh my God.
Like who are you? Like, I've never seen such good flamingo in. And they said, a, we're from Albuquerque, New Mexico. And I'm like, we're basically like, we come from the land of Flamingo here in the United States. And there's a show, a Flamingo festival, starting to mo like in a couple days, like you really should go.
And I said, okay. So I got in a Greyhound. I went and I, you know, I did a work trade. I was like helping sell merch in the lobby and I was able to attend all the shows and take classes with this incredible artist, . And Antonio was representing him. They were on tour. He was on tour with the company. He was the, you know, their manager.
So we just connected at the festival and actually we, you know, he was, he was [00:35:00] we were not in the place to connect at the time mm-hmm. to, to solidify anything. So he moved to, to back to where he was living in Holland actually. And I'm moved back here and we continued our, but three years later we reconnected actually through.
Instagram and Oh wow. Then he he moved to Miami where I was living at the time and, and then the rest is history .
Sara: Oh, that's so sweet. I love that story. It's amazing. So you have babes. Yeah. You two little babes and you're a mom. And I am always, I just love knowing about. Mother's journeys, how they hold space for all the unfolding and unwinding and changes and just everything.
And, and also like healing the body postpartum is really interesting to me. There was like a book on postpartum healing, and it talked about she started taking an African dance class to heal her. [00:36:00] Pelvic core, pelvic muscles after birth. Yeah. And how dance was the thing that like, really helped her muscle tone and helped everything kind of come back into regulation and balance. And so just thinking of like how dance can be so powerful in postpartum I'm curious like what that has been like for you.
Oh yeah.
Andrea: No. Definitely. I mean, these, these, these dances they have, because I feel like because they, for so many generations they've been danced and like these movements, they've been like intuitively studied, you know? Mm-hmm. like, and, and, and, and helped heal so many people that it's like when we can tap into that, we can heal ourselves and, and.
also connect with our own intuitive movements because our body knows, like, it's like everyone can, can heal through dancing, and it's just about listening to your body, you know? Mm-hmm. . And, and it's also nice when you have the [00:37:00] guidance of these, like, traditions that have been happening for centuries. And so you can also follow along through that little path, and they, they help, they help you take you to like that, that place of healing and that place of like, just reinhabiting every space in our body.
I mean, I feel like. After you give birth, I mean, you're so just like expanded and like wide open.
And it's like, I feel like the dances that like that can like help bring you back to your body and like, just like, you know, and it's not so much yeah, bring you back. But also
like remind you of that like,
for lack of a better word, like, you know, your, your inner like savage, you know? Mm-hmm. and, cause you have to be this like, nurturing person and it's like we're now full-time nur in full-time nurturing mode and giving to others. So it's like, what is this like, like salva, like this [00:38:00] wild part of yourself that is still, you know, that's still alive and like nurturing that.
But I also spoke with this medicine woman who told me like, do not wear heels. Mm-hmm. for a whole year after giving birth. Mm-hmm. . Cause like the inclination, something about like the inclination and like the pelvic floor. So I I tried to dance as much as possible without my heels for mm-hmm.
a, a year after giving birth. Oh, beautiful. Yeah, it was hard. And like, not do so much like stomping mm-hmm. , you know, like just embracing other movements more like upper body and more like hips. Mm-hmm. and just more grounded. Which the beauty of Flamingo is like, it didn't start with heels. The heels were an accessory that were brought in later.
So the women could cre continue their, could carry their own rhythm, and were dependent on like the, the men having bringing the rhythm. Mm. They have nail bottom of the shoes, you know? Mm-hmm. . So
Sara: yeah. Oh, that's [00:39:00] beautiful. That makes so much sense to not wear shoes for dancing and just to focus Yeah.
On like upper body and hips kind of unwinding, like focusing on that for the first, especially the first year postpartum, just for like, bringing in movement, but mindful and gentle
Andrea: that and being grounded. Sorry, with your feet and your feet as well. Like just the barefoot mm-hmm. , the barefoot, like on the ground, you know, like, so it, it has this very African element, like mm-hmm.
because it's like a lot of like hips and, and like, you know, your just like connecting from the waist down and then mm-hmm. , you know, grounding from the waist down, but then like lifting that up and like, you know, just like connecting upwards as well. So it's like, Up and down, like I feel like this, my filming goes very complete in that sense, but mm-hmm.
All dances have their, I mean, all traditional dances have like the, they really incorporate the, the feet [00:40:00] and the lower body and the upper bar upper body here.
Sara: Yeah. Beautiful. I'm curious, like thinking about postpartum mamas, I'm just, they're always on my mind cause I always helping them out. Is there like something that you found in your postpartum journey that felt really helpful or supportive or nourishing or that you wish had been more present for you?
Andrea: Yeah, honestly just putting on music and dancing, like twerking felt so good. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. just like getting in my lower body and like mm-hmm. , like tonifying my pelvic floor and tonifying like my abdomen, but like through joy. through moments, through like movements that bring me joy and help me release because it's like you're not gonna be very sexually active postpartum.
Mm-hmm. . But it's really nice to, to like, even if it's just like undulating a little bit, even if it's just like turning on a candle and like putting some slow [00:41:00] music on or some fast music what, whatever, like, whatever like wakes that spark up and puts smile on your face and like, that's what I think is the best, most part.
I'm like, you know, whatever awakens that. Like inner fire.
Sara: Yeah. Oh, that's so beautiful. I love that .
Andrea: What else? Postpartum?
Yeah,
Sara: I would say that, yeah, I mean, I think that's a, that's sometimes keeping it simple. Yeah. I'm noticing. In my classes, I'll always throw like a hundred suggestions. Oh yeah. At people. And I'm realizing like, actually I need less. And most people like, less is more. And so I love that. Just put on a song that you like and dance.
Like move Yeah. How you wanna move, but it's beautiful.
Andrea: Totally. I love that. Thank
Sara: you. Yeah, thank you. As we're wrapping up, I have a couple little bonus questions. Yeah. If that feels good. Yeah. Let's go. I'm [00:42:00] curious a win that you've had recently. Mm-hmm. , I just been reading this book, the Gap in the Gain, and it's just about like whether we're focusing on how far we've come or how far we have to go.
And one idea in the book is just to like, think of like, Each day, like ending the day with like, what was a win that I had today and then what would be like a fun win for tomorrow. And so it's just been kind of like this fun little exercise I've been really into. And, and it's interesting to think of, like, yeah, what is something that feels like has been wonderful in your life lately?
Or a win? Mm-hmm. , it could be as big or as small as comes, whatever comes to mind.
Andrea: Yeah. I would say forming our nonprofit Bo of Flamingo and, you know, which is, it stands for Boulder, Colorado, the Boco. Mm-hmm. Flamingo. And, and then creating the festival. So, I mean, we actually have put it, we have, we've put it together.[00:43:00]
We started February, like first, so it's been like two months. Wow. Yeah, so we've had, like we, we, we have like two months to create it, and next year we'll have a whole year, but it's just, it felt like it was like ready, set, go. Like, this is the opportunity, like, don't miss it. And so it felt like just ju not, not, not having been like, well, like let's wait till next year.
So we have a year to plan it. But just being like, I have all the tools right now, like why not do it right now? Like mm-hmm. , why not do it now? You know? And the artists, were gonna be in LA already, so it's like, let's just bring 'em here. Like, they're gonna be already in the United States. Like, let's just bring 'em here.
So, you know, just jumping on, on opportun on that opportunity and, and executing and you know, having manifested the festival. So. Mm. That's like huge win. It's lifelong dream bucket list. Like accomplishment. Yes,
Sara: yes, yes. Oh, oh my gosh. I'm celebrating for you. That is a [00:44:00] huge win. That's amazing. And I love that just.
That you're using that energy too. It's like that cayenne energy of just like, make it happen. Like it's so sudden and you're like, oh, pull it together in two months. But like, boom, you're just, you're doing it. So that's incredible. I love that. That momentum is really exciting. Mm-hmm. beautiful. I'm curious, something that you're excited about in the year ahead.
Andrea: Okay.
Sara: I mean, I guess the, the Yeah. Festival is .
Andrea: Yeah. Well, it's like this yearly thing, you know, that happens. I mean it's just like combining, like I, I love, you know, make creating events and creating spaces for people to like, have a great time and to con like, to connect with their, and with their, like that fire, that inner fire.
And so it's like fusing that in the flamingo and, you know, doing it every year and it's like, Boulder, we have a date, a yearly date for connecting with our inner fire and being [00:45:00] inspired by like, you know, this art form. So I'm enriching the culture for, but I'm also excited for my diving deeper into my erotic botanica line and education and this whole realm of us facilitating eroticism and sex healthy sexuality.
Our healthy yeah, exactly. In people, both men and women. And so we're, we're working on our line right now. I'm working on my line and so that is. Coming up around the corner as well.
Sara: so exciting. I know people were like raving and so excited about your class. Oh. And that you're just such a natural teacher.
So I love that you're gonna make things more accessible for people and just sharing that, that wisdom and all of those beautiful, just ways that you're activating those parts of yourself mm-hmm. And helping share that with [00:46:00] other people in a really loving and nourished way. It's really mm-hmm.
really exciting.
Andrea: Oh, I love that. Thank you. Yeah. I feel like we know we just need a little bit of a push sometimes, like postpartum, like mm-hmm. , oh my God. It's like, it's like a desert down there, you know, it's like your body does not wanna have more kids, so it's. We're gonna dry up because we don't want , we don't wanna be fertilized again.
Right now our body's like recovering. So I've been, I really worked on that. My WAP tea. Mm-hmm. That's something I'm excited also to release in the product line. Is the WAP Tea, you know, have you heard a wp It's Cardi B has, she has a famous song called Wet as Pussy. Oh yeah, , my god. I gave that out in my herbal class, and that was so fun.
And, you know, it's very, everyone you know that I've given it to had really positive effects. I mean, it really like catches you off guard. You'll be just like brushing your teeth. Like, whoa. You know? So it's like, it's nice. [00:47:00] Yeah. It's so fun. Yeah. And, and men too with, you know, the erections and, and with their, like retaining their chi and it's just, there are things that often don't get spoken about and there shouldn't be any shame around it and around, you know, enhancing our sexual, sexual life and our
Sara: pleasure.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I love that. I know one of the flower essences that I love for that too is pine often comes to mind for like releasing feelings of guilt or shame. And I always joke like, I wish, instead of adding fluoride to the water, we added pine flour essence, because then our culture would just be so much more like embodied and like excited to like be real, be who they are and not be Yeah, ashamed.
Andrea: What a great idea. When you know, I mean, they might be open. That's a really good idea to like, But in a way, like if, you know, there is so much [00:48:00] pine around, you know, the, it's true bodies of water here that like, hopefully somehow it's getting infused . Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Yeah. I
Andrea: love that. That's true. Flower essence.
Mm-hmm. . I'm working now with pine and cayenne flour essence. Thank you. Mm.
Sara: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for bringing those ideas to the surface too. I'm curious, any advice you would have for your younger self or somebody else just getting started in the world of herbalism or dance or movement?
Andrea: Hmm,
definitely like removing the shame. Mm-hmm. , just in general, like in your life, in your dance, in your work, and like whatever can help you.
Accept every single part of you and accept like your natural blueprint and like who you, like your essence. Mm-hmm. and just celebrate it and not be like, not let yourself [00:49:00] be be restricted or brought down or kind of like stopping yourself from, from expressing yourself. 100% is so helpful in working with herbal medicine and in like getting to know yourself and in your dance.
And definitely like for men and women, I wanna say
learn. About your cycle, like mm-hmm. , learn about the cycle learn about the female rep, you know, biological female reproductive cycle. Mm-hmm. . And because it's, it's a responsibility for all humans to, you know, all sexually active humans to, to understand like, when am I, when, when is this person obvious?
When am I obviating? What does this mean now? And like all those all those things are so important because it's like the first step to taking back your power mm-hmm. is to get to know your body. Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Yeah. So powerful. Yeah. So it's beautiful. [00:50:00] Yeah. Thank you
Andrea: for that. Yeah. And it's like International Women's Day, like how Oh, right.
Sara: I love it. I know. So good. Yeah. Women are, we're pretty wonderful. Yeah, .
Andrea: I mean, it's such a power to be able to, to hold, like the capacity to create and to have this, like this potential to create a human being. Like it's just, it's no joke. Mm-hmm. , which, yeah. And, and, and you know, men have daily cycles or biological males have their cycles are with the sun, as I'm sure you know.
And the wo women, you know, us women, how everyone knows we're with them more with the moon, the 28 day cycle. Mm-hmm. men have a daily cycle. And so it's, it's, it's beautiful to honor that too. .
Sara: Mm. I I didn't realize that. What is is there like a way that you would suggest doing that? Like for men versus for women?
Yeah.
Andrea: [00:51:00] Well, for women it's like, plan accordingly. Like, you wanna get pregnant, like like make love during while you're ovulating. And if you, if not, then just wait five days, you know? Mm-hmm. just be like, it's, there's five days out of the month that you need to be aware of that. So it's like, if you can be aware of, you can locate those five days and like zone in on when they are, you don't have to take anything to like, that can, that alters the rest of your body and, you know, and for, and, and men it's like it's, for example, just being aware that like they have more libido and more, more like sexual energy when the sun is up.
Mm. And it's, it's like if they're gonna ejaculate, it's better to ejaculate with the sun. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . Wow, that's, I didn't know that. Yeah. . .
Sara: That's fun. I mean, I think a lot of times people, you know, are working with like fertility treatments and so I think that could be something just to be aware of, like, know when your cycle is.
Yeah. And maybe focus on like, [00:52:00] that morning window of time and maybe get that little like cayenne cinnamon oil by your bed. And just like Uhhuh Yeah, warm
Andrea: things up. Totally. And, and then, and just being like, assuming your decision, like, you know what, like, I wanna have fully, you know, unprotected sex. Like, okay, are you ready for the possibility of a pregnancy?
No. Then just wait a couple days, like mm-hmm. , or use a condom or, you know, but like, just like totally being, like, being aware of your power and your sword and knowing how to use it makes the sex so much better. You know, because it's like, You can fully surrender or you can fully, you know, or you can, you know, fully wait, or you can fully like just, but it's like, assume your decision.
And it's like, that to me is what like really leads to full body orgasms. That, and when your glands are nourished, because full body orgasm is essentially all the glands in your body being activated at the same time. Like not just a genital [00:53:00] orgasm, not just like the testes and the ovaries, but like your pineal gland is involved, your thyroid is involved, everything's nourishing, all that.
Getting that oat straw and getting like that, those nettles and, and, and those adaptogens and really,
Sara: Ooh, I'd love to touch on that a little bit more. Like how do you nourish the glands or how do you like support that function?
Andrea: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. Trying to limit your cortisol release. Mm-hmm. You're, yeah.
When you're The, the hor. When a, when someone has so much stress in their life, instead of the body using the hormones to become sex hormones, they become, it becomes cortisol. So when there's a lot of stress, then it's like all that, all that potential sex hormone, you know, cells, they're becoming, they're becoming cortisol.
Mm. Mm-hmm. , it's becoming cortisol. So limiting, limiting the limiting stress. Nourishing nourishing, you know, nettles and oats [00:54:00] straw. It's like mm-hmm. . It's, it's great, great combination nets, marshmallow and slippery. A for that wp mm-hmm.
And then like, getting your adaptogens too, like that's, you know, that are gonna help you. I feel like Ashwaganda is so beautiful. Mm-hmm. such a beautiful ally for that. I love working with Shari. Oh my God. For men and women. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Sara: I really think of it more for women, but I that would be beautiful in working with men too.
I love shaary and Ashwaganda for both, for all genders and Yes, totally identities. Just for supporting that. I know, like nervous system and Yeah. Mm-hmm. flow. Yeah.
Andrea: It's like everybody, every human could use some, you know, adaptogen, nourishing and moistening herbs, I feel like. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah. Stress stresses out, you know?
Mm-hmm. . And, and when you're dry, you're also you're not grounded because it became more airy and more [00:55:00] like, mm. Vodka. Vodka. More vodka. Yeah. So that's super cool. What else? Oh, the minerals are so important. Because the minerals are like, they're the spark plug. So it's like the precursor to the hormones.
So if we don't have the minerals, if we're deficient in minerals, then we're not even gonna be able to produce those hormones too. Like, so really getting those traced minerals is like another way to really nourish and prepare for a full body orgasm. Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Cool. I love that. That's a great tip. Like nourishing tonic for Yeah.
Fantastic orgasms. Household .
Andrea: Yeah. Yes, yes. And lastly just, oh, I was, I mean, one of my, I was listening to a podcast the other day and the speaker was talking about the frequency that minerals hold. Mm. So the way, for example, that magnesium holds a frequency of gratitude. Oh, cool. Like, when we feel like deficient in [00:56:00] gratitude, it's like we're usually magnesium deficient.
Or Yeah. Or like iron holding, like this masculinity and this, like, when we're deficient in iron, it, there's can be like a fear, like a deep-seated fear that we don't know why we have. Mm-hmm. . And copper is unconditional love and feminine mineral.
Sara: Wow. That's so cool. I never knew about those things, but it totally makes sense to me.
And so many of those things are supportive of Yeah. Reproductive just juiciness and flow and fertility. Mm-hmm. . That makes sense. Yeah. Oh, so beautiful. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that.
Andrea: Thank you. The podcast I heard it on, was Freely Rooted and Naisa Nelson was the. Practitioner that was speaking about the frequency of minerals.
Sara: Oh, cool. Yeah. That's so interesting. I definitely wanna dive into that more. So fascinating.
Yeah.
Andrea: And also she talks about how like, progesterone is [00:57:00] this hormone that's so important for like manifesting and getting things to actually happen. Mm-hmm. . And so if we're just all estrogen and like progesterone deficient, it's just a bunch of like, I mean we're, it is just, it's pure expansion and dreaminess and like, you know, but if you don't have the progesterone to like, now let's get it done.
And like that faith that like, I can, I can accomplish this and I can like actually materialize all these ideas. So it's like the, the, the beautiful dance of estrogen and progesterone. Is like
Sara: powerful. Wow. That's potent. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I'm, I want some more progesterone. That sounds good. . Yeah,
Andrea: I know, right?
Exactly. So yeah, women when they're, when they're at nine months, like of pregnancy, they're at the highest level of progesterone in their whole life. Hmm. Have like, I mean, the, the amount of progesterone they're producing is like huge. Mm-hmm. . And so you can tell in like the nesting and like, I gotta get this done, [00:58:00] and like mm-hmm.
also protective like their protectiveness over, you know, their, their baby and like, just like, it's like the awareness of everything at the same time and like, just, I don't know, it's that energy of like a woman in, you know, in. About to give birth and all the things that she, they need to like be ready in like the nest.
And so that's like progesterone. Mm-hmm. .
Sara: Wow. That's so powerful. That's, that's cool to think of. Yeah. I love that. I'm curious, any favorite resource or podcast book or anything that you are really like, excited about lately?
Andrea: I've been listening to Carolyn Miss a lot. Mm. I don't know her. Oh my God. Carolyn, miss, she created The Anatomy of the Spirit. She wrote The Anatomy of the Spirit. Oh, cool. It's an amazing, amazing [00:59:00] classic book. It's the first book I actually read about how, like the energetics of Pathology mm-hmm.
And so, you know if you have this disorder or this illness, like what does it mean at the root? You know, like not just. Like essentially what are you not doing or what are you omitting in your life? That's like taken you to have this dise in your body, you know? Mm-hmm. . So she just was the first person that integrated and talk, spoke about like how, you know, when your spirit is unhappy, that can, that will lead to like illness.
So, you know, and correlating like each the pathology of the different chakras too, and like yeah. So she's an amazing woman and she has a YouTube channel, Carolyn Miss. Hmm. And she is just, she is like the judge Judy, of like, spirituality, you know, . She's just like, she says like, like with a sword, but like, it's like she's just like channeling, but she's very black and white and I love that.
I feel [01:00:00] like we are missing this like Energy in our society these days. Like just a very opinionated person that's like, also very, like, very clean. Someone that's, you know, listening to spirit like in a very un, un pretentious way. Mm-hmm. , she like really gets herself outta the picture and she's just like, channels a message.
So I love, love to listen to her,
you
Sara: know? Yeah. That sounds so refreshing. Yeah. so amazing. Oh, I love that. Well, Andrea, anything else you're feeling like coming to the surface? You wanna be sure to share?
Andrea: Yes. Let me think. No, I'm just so grateful to be here and I wanna make sure that everyone knows that there's a workshop pastor, this teacher, this woman that I was talking about, how she deeply embodies her womb and.
Her her body and her femininity and like her masculinity like this, the duality within within herself. She is going to be teaching a workshop at the [01:01:00] Dairy Art Center, April 4th, fifth, and sixth. And all that information is on our website, vocal flamingo.org. And just, I really hope that you'll definitely be at the show.
It, but everyone listening here in Boulder can make it.
Sara: Oh yes, I know. I'm excited to attend. And I know you showed me a video of her dancing and I was, oh my God. I'll have to add a link to that in the show notes cuz she's just captivating. And I loved what you said earlier about you can just feel her like moving from her womb in all of her motions and the way that she's like, Flowing in space.
It was just like, whoa. Yes. I feel that .
Andrea: I love that. Oh my
Sara: goodness. Yeah. I'm so excited for the festival. And how can people support you, follow your work, follow the festival? I know there's Instagram is at Boco Flamingo and the website is boko [01:02:00] flamingo.org. Anything else we should know to, to support you and the festival?
Mm,
Andrea: no, that's it. We're a nonprofit, so we're depending on donations and public funding. So that's, that's there too. Mm-hmm. . But if anybody wants to reach out to us, please feel free. Yeah, I run the Instagram, so I'm there. You can message me there. Our info at Boco Flamingo. Yeah.
So I'm just so excited about this and I look forward to like, many, many years of this festival being here and just for people to transform and like ex have their own catharsis through Fleming. So I wish it for everyone. . I love that. Can't come to the festival, like, watch these videos online and like, see if look locally there's a show or, you know listen to guitar and [01:03:00] like, I just listen to him all day.
S like, he's just, he's like the Jesus Christ, the Flamingo . So there's before Camon and there's after Camon and he was like this singer that revolutionized flamingo music and has this, you know, like this voice that's like timeless. And is so deep and it just like rips your inside. Like, it just like gr gets you from the inside and like just grabs you and you know, if you just, at first it can be a little difficult maybe to get into, but like if you really just like feel the rhythm and like how the rhythm plays and how he like flies over the rhythm and then like comes back into the rhythm and it's like, wow.
Mm-hmm. Cool. Yes. And the, the sync, the guitars that will be at the April Fit at the show is David Aha. D a v David. Mm-hmm. A Rahel, so a R A H A L. And he is on [01:04:00] Apple Music and Spotify and he's just like, incredible also. So. Oh, amazing. The flamenco pianist too. So I highly recommend, you know, listening to some flamingo wherever you are.
Oh, I
Sara: love that. That's brilliant. Yeah, and I love that there's flamenco piano cuz Yeah, I've always associated flamingo with the guitar mostly and singing and violin. But flamenco piano sounds incredible too. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, Andrea, thank you so much for making time. It was just such a treat to chat with you and to hear more about the festival and more about your postpartum time and your class and eroticism in herbalism and bringing in more of that like grounded and healthy sexuality connection to ourselves and our creative expression.
So thank you so much for being
Andrea: here. You're welcome. Thank you so much, Sarah. [01:05:00] Like thank you for being, for doing this and like for. Creating this platform and giving voice to these kinds of, you know, topics and creating like a sacred space for this conversation to occur and for all the work you do. Thank you.
Thank you for always being like, this is like thep, pia and like wealth of knowledge. Whenever I work with you, it's like such a gift cuz I can be like, Sarah, what do you think about this ? Like, God, what would you do in this case? And, you know, amazing, you know, the, to be able to, to like learn a little bit more about, you know, your, your know, your wealth of knowledge and your experiences and what, you know, your remedies.
So.
Sara: Oh, thank you for saying that. Yeah. I mean, I feel like again, the feeling is so mutual. I learned so much from you and it's just so, such a treat to be able to collaborate and work together and share stories, and share information together and share space.
Andrea: Yeah. And such an honor to [01:06:00] spend some time in the studio.